In a world that feels louder than ever, many of us are quietly asking the same questions: Can I really hear God? How do I know it’s Him? And what do I do when He speaks?
That’s why I’m so grateful for this week’s episode of The Love Offering Podcast, where I sit down with Bible teacher and author Rachael Groll to talk about her book, Knowing God’s Voice: What Female Prophets of the Bible Teach Us About Recognizing, Trusting, and Obeying God.
In our conversation, Rachael helps us slow down and look closely at the lives of women in Scripture who truly heard from God—and faithfully responded. Some of their stories are familiar; others are rarely taught, but all remind us that God has always spoken to women and continues to do so today.
Together, we talk about:
- How to discern the difference between God’s voice, our own thoughts, and the voice of the enemy
- How to grow in confidence when God is leading you to take a step of obedience
- What Scripture teaches us about women using their voices for God’s purposes
- How the historical and cultural context of biblical women brings clarity and encouragement for us today
This conversation is deeply rooted in God’s Word and gently reminds us that listening to Him is not reserved for a select few—it’s an invitation for every believer who desires to walk closely with Him.
If you’ve ever felt unsure, overlooked, or hesitant to trust what God is stirring in your heart, I think this episode will encourage you in meaningful ways.
You can listen to the full episode wherever you get your podcasts, and I pray it helps you listen closely, trust more deeply, and walk faithfully in the light God gives you—one step at a time.
With love,
Rachael
Takeaways
The importance of recognizing God’s voice through His Word.
Obedience often feels uncomfortable, but it is necessary for spiritual growth.
Women in the Bible serve as powerful examples of faith and obedience.
Letting go as a mother can be a spiritual journey.
Hearing God’s voice requires intentionality and quieting distractions.
God uses imperfect people to fulfill His perfect plans.
The impact of our obedience can extend beyond our immediate understanding.
Silence from God can be an invitation to deepen our relationship with Him.
Understanding God’s love helps us recognize His voice more clearly.
Obedience is not just about action but also about surrendering outcomes to God.
Summary
In this episode of the Love Offering Podcast, host Rachael Adams welcomes Rachael Groll, an author and life coach, to discuss her new book, ‘Knowing God’s Voice.’ The conversation explores themes of motherhood, the challenges of obedience, and the importance of recognizing God’s voice in our lives. Rachael shares personal experiences and insights from female prophets in the Bible, emphasizing that obedience often requires stepping out of our comfort zones and trusting God’s plan. The episode encourages listeners to deepen their relationship with God through His Word and to embrace the journey of faith, even in silence.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Love Offering Podcast
01:23 Meet Rachel Grohl: Author and Life Coach
05:33 The Journey of Letting Go as a Mother
06:11 Hearing God’s Voice: Personal Experiences
13:14 Obedience: The Challenge of Following God’s Call
16:57 Women of the Bible: Lessons from Female Prophets
19:16 Overcoming Obstacles to Obedience
23:25 The Impact of Obedience: Kingdom Perspective
25:00 Finding God in Silence: The Importance of Scripture
27:07 God’s Love Story: Understanding His Heart
28:53 Closing Thoughts and Prayer
Transcript (AI Generated)
Rachael Adams (00:02.109)
Welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. I’m your host, Rachel Adams, author of Everyday Prayers for Love: Learning to Love God, Others, and Even Yourself. Each week, we dive into meaningful conversations about how to live out the greatest commandment, loving God with all of our heart, soul, mind, and strength, and loving our neighbors as ourselves. Whether through inspiring stories, practical tips, or biblical truths, I hope to encourage you to love boldly, live faithfully, and reflect God’s love in your everyday life.
Today I’m excited to welcome Rachel Grohl to the show. Rachel is an author, certified life coach, missionary, and podcaster with a heart for sharing Jesus with anyone who will listen. She has served in various full-time ministry capacities, both locally and globally, including starting outreach programs for women, creating curriculum, teaching, and speaking. Her podcast, Hearing Jesus, has remained in the top 30 Christian podcasts in the US for the past year and ranks among the top podcasts globally. She holds a BA in Ministerial Leadership and an MA in Bible Exposition and Theology. Rachel is here today to discuss her new book, Knowing God’s Voice, which teaches us to recognize, trust, and obey God. This book will encourage us to listen closely, speak boldly, and bring God’s light into an increasingly dark world.
Well, hello, Rachel. Welcome to the love offering podcast. I’m so happy to have you.
Rachael Groll (01:33.198)
Yeah, thank you so much for having me. Looking forward to chatting today.
Rachael Adams (01:37.025)
There are very few occasions when I get to say I’m interviewing and speaking with another Rachel, also spelled R-A-C-H-A-E-L. I feel so connected to you already.
Rachael Groll (01:50.1)
And you probably went through what I did as a kid, always having to correct people on the spelling of my name.
Rachael Adams (01:56.489)
Yes, like every trophy, there was never a keychain or a cup that our name spelled right, but I’m thankful for it now.
Rachael Groll (02:02.542)
Yeah, for sure. I like being different. As I mentioned earlier, Rachel Ray also helped in that area.
Rachael Adams (02:10.081)
That’s right. Well, those listening won’t be able to see this, but you’re wearing a sweatshirt that says “greater love.” So, did you wear that just for us today?
Rachael Groll (02:18.846)
It says, great love. Actually, the Holy Spirit did that because this is my daughter’s fundraising T-shirt. She just left on a mission for the World Race and will be away for nine months, including adventures and missions. And this was her fundraiser t-shirt. She’s been gone for just a couple of days, and she’s on my mind. It made me feel closer to her to wear it today. The Holy Spirit aligned that.
Rachael Adams (02:41.591)
Wow. So how many children do you have?
Rachael Groll (02:45.326)
I have three girls, and she’s my middle. I have a 15-year-old, an 18-year-old, and an almost-22-year-old.
Rachael Adams (02:52.863)
Okay, which one was going on the mission trip?
Rachael Groll (02:56.962)
My 18-year-old made a rapid transition from pre-law on a full scholarship to full-time missions. And it was like the end of her senior year that she made that switch. And so it’s been a whirlwind, but it’s been so encouraging to watch her obey God’s voice in her own life.
Rachael Adams (03:20.449)
So she left a couple of days ago?
Rachael Groll (03:22.734)
Yes, Friday and now it’s Thursday. So it’s been less than a week. If I may, I spoke with her on FaceTime about an hour ago, and it gives me so much joy to see her living out the call of God on her life. She’s had an evangelistic heart since she was teeny tiny. And when she decided to do this trip, it felt so much.
Rachael Adams (03:26.539)
So how is she doing, and how are you doing?
Rachael Groll (03:48.888)
more right for her. Like we’ve known she’s had a call on her life, you know, but you can’t tell that to somebody. God has to say that to somebody. We encourage that and help her grow in that. But when she decided to do it, we wrote so much peace because we knew this was precisely where God wanted to take her. And so, seeing her thrive with other kids. She’s with 25 kids, the group that loves the Lord and is on fire to serve him. It’s very encouraging as her mother to see that. So I’m holding both like pride and joy and grief all the same time. Every mama who sent their baby off to kindergarten knows that feeling.
Rachael Adams (04:24.375)
Yes, well, I’m feeling that on a certain level. My daughter is a high school freshman, and my son recently obtained his driver’s license. Seeing them both drive away without me has been tough. I didn’t, I didn’t, I mean, I knew I would struggle, but I didn’t know how much I was going to struggle just with this, this letting go. And I know it’s natural and I know it’s what we want, but it’s, it’s hard. And so I can’t imagine my kids being.
Rachael Groll (04:35.918)
I know.
Rachael Adams (04:50.227)
My kids are at school two miles away. Your daughters are across the world, and I can’t imagine how that must feel.
Rachael Groll (04:57.358)
It’s interesting that we don’t talk about it much as moms about the process of letting go. And it’s interesting because with this book coming out, of course, I wrote it a while ago, the publishing process, you know, takes a while. And so I’m revisiting this content with a fresh set of eyes. The first chapter is about Miriam. But before we even get into Miriam’s story, we come to Josip Ed’s story as her mother.
Rachael Adams (05:02.871)
Hmm.
Rachael Groll (05:22.098)
And I actually, you, I think it was Friday or Saturday, I was in the shower crying my eyes out, over leaving my baby and letting her get on this plane. And the Holy Spirit just very gently and kindly reminded me of Joshebed. And he said, It’s time to let go of the basket. It was a sweet, tender moment with the Lord because I had researched it, taught it, and written it.
But in that moment, it just became so real for me. And just trusting the Lord with your child is something that, as moms, we are called to do, but we often don’t understand what that actually feels like until it happens to us. And so it gave me a new kind of insight into what she must have gone through as she made that commitment to trust the Lord with her baby.
Rachael Adams (06:07.127)
That’s making me so teary. It’s time to let go of the basket. Okay. I’m like white-knuckled, holding on. That’s right. I can’t wait to continue this conversation with you, but we’ll take a brief break to hear from today’s sponsor, and then we’ll be right back.
Rachael Groll (06:14.7)
Well, it’s my basket.
Rachael Adams (06:28.913)
Welcome back. We are speaking with Rachel Grohl about her new book on knowing and hearing Jesus. We’ll discuss what the female prophets of the Bible teach us about recognizing, trusting, and obeying God’s voice. So Rachel, I’d love to know when you first heard God’s voice? When did you first notice that He was calling you?
Rachael Groll (06:55.15)
You know, there were glimpses of it even all the way back when I was younger, even as a new believer, and I didn’t necessarily recognize it. I think one thing I always try to remind people is that the primary way we learn to recognize God’s voice is through His Word. And I think, like many believers, I would read the Word, and the Holy Spirit would quicken my heart over a particular verse or a subject or topic.
And at the time, I didn’t quite realize that that’s what that was. That was the voice of the Holy Spirit. It was my experience, my lens, or what I needed in the moment that resonated with it. But that really becomes a training ground. When we learn to recognize God’s voice in His word, it helps us understand what it means to hear His voice in the day-to-day. For me, that’s been different at different times in my life. I was joking with a friend the other day about how interesting it is that God uniquely speaks to each of us. You know, the way the Lord says to you may be a little different from the way he talks to me. Believe it or not, back in my children’s pastor days, when I was on staff at a church and working as the children’s pastor, there was a season in my life when God showed me things in a cartoon.
And that seems so crazy to say, but at the time, it was the world I was immersed in. I was creating all these cartoons for the kids on Sunday. And, you know, it’s just an easy way to communicate a message to a child. And I remember a particular time in life where I was like, surely this can’t be the Lord showing up in cartoons, but it was, and it was just the way that he got my attention in that moment. He no longer does that. Not that he can’t, but it feels different. I’ve matured in my faith and in my understanding of it, but others’ experiences may differ.
Rachael Adams (08:49.237)
Yeah, absolutely. I know my listeners know this story, but he spoke to me through a love offering envelope, you know, in a church pew. He can use anything, anyone, and any medium to get your attention if we’re willing to listen. And often we hear it’s God’s still small voice. And so it’s, I being silent enough to pay attention. Can you talk about that? Why do you think it is so hard to hear God’s still small voice?
Rachael Groll (09:25.518)
We live, especially now, in a culture where many things compete for our time, attention, and even our thought life. And in my home, it’s not intentional. It’s because I’m busy. I’m doing all the things. I’m the mom. I gotta get dinner going and the load of laundry. And just my mind is so clouded with so many things that often those things crowd out the voice of the Holy Spirit if I’m not intentional. And so I think for a lot of us, it is a way that the enemy has used to keep us distracted from hearing God’s voice. And it might not be intentional. However, if we aren’t intentionally seeking out God’s voice and quieting our minds and hearts, it’s tough to hear that voice. Now that’s not to say that there aren’t moments where the Lord is very blatant and very clear with me. You sometimes call them sacred echoes, where he will be speaking something over and over, and maybe it’s my rebellion or my inattention or my stubbornness that the Lord has to do that before I recognize it and pay attention that it’s him. And often it’s with something that I don’t wanna do. You know, God’s calling me to obedience in an area, and I’m trying to put blinders on and pretend I don’t hear him or don’t see him.
But I think often now, now that my house is a little bit quieter, you know, I have everybody in school or at work or, you know, they’re not home. My days are quieter. And I’ve just learned, you know, when you have had the experience of being confident of hearing God’s voice and seeing how that’s played out, how he’s used that in your own life or in the life of those around you, that actually becomes addicting. You start to crave his presence. You begin to crave hearing his voice. I think the shift for me came when I began to obey, not just hear God’s voice. Still, I started being obedient to what it was that he was sharing with me, whether that was a podcast episode or a word for a friend or a prayer or whatever it was in the moment, that obedience portion helps us to really hone in on what God wants to do in and through us with his words. Once you reach that point, it’s hard to turn it off.
Rachael Adams (11:35.712)
Yeah, it is. You know, even this morning, I had a Bible study. One of the ladies is a co-leader with me and one of my dearest friends and mentors. She is so, she has such a gift of welcoming and making people feel loved, and behind the scenes, like she loves to serve, making food, making the coffee, setting everything up, and making everything look beautiful. And, but what she hasn’t felt as comfortable doing is getting in front of everybody and like, you know, being the one at the podium with a microphone. And so for the longest time, she would do it, but then she would say, I don’t feel comfortable being up there. And so last week when we met, she said, Rachel, I think you need to do that. I’ll continue to do the behind-the-scenes work. You be upfront, and I’ll be behind the scenes. And so it was like, okay, if that’s how you feel, Ed, that’s fine. This morning, she said, “Rachel, I could not sleep all night last night.” She’s like, The Lord would not release me from it, I need to be upfront with you.” And so it was just this reminder of like she was allowing the enemy to speak lies to her and what she didn’t feel like she could do in her own strength or what she was gifted at, but that the Lord was asking her to do. And then she said, as soon as she released it and said, “Okay, I’ll go upfront,” she had this incredible amount of peace.
And so it’s this idea that the Lord woke her up and would not let her sleep until she said, “Okay, Lord, I’ll obey.” And then she got the peace. That story comes to mind. And I hope she doesn’t mind me sharing it. I don’t think she would, but she was doing everything within her power to avoid the task or role the Lord wanted her to take on and to rely on him. Cause it isn’t something that she’s naturally comfortable with. That is similar to what many of us experience. We are in this like battle, this mental battle with ourselves, with what the enemy wants us to do versus what the Lord wants us to do, and hearing all these voices in our heads. So talk to us a little bit about that, like confusing maybe the enemy’s voice with the Lord’s voice and trying to make sense of the two.
Rachael Groll (13:49.102)
We often get tripped up by our own thought life. You know, there is a moment when we might feel like we hear the Lord speaking, but, as your friend mentioned, there’s an insecurity there, and there are a variety of reasons. It could be fear, perhaps it’s experience, maybe it’s the leadership in our lives. There are many reasons, but we let our insecurities speak louder than the Holy Spirit’s voice. For me, I have realized that obedience is rarely comfortable. That’s the reality in any area of life. Going to the gym to be good stewards of our bodies is not comfortable. Stewarding our finances well is not comfortable sometimes. Any area of obedience is usually not comfortable. But what I have learned is that, over time, disobedience is even more uncomfortable.
Rachael Groll (14:41.038)
And so it’s not necessarily that I want to be obedient in the moment, but I really don’t want to deal with the consequence of the disobedience. So that becomes the baseline undercurrent for how we approach those situations. But I think one thing I always share with women is that God’s voice will never contradict God’s word. And so we always have to be listening to God’s voice through the lens of his word. And his voice is not going to contradict something he has already said. So if we, number one, if we are on the fence about determining, this really from the Lord? Well, we have to go back to the word and see what the word says about it. While there may not be specifics, please note that there won’t be anything that explicitly addresses how to manage cell phone use with my teenagers. You know, that’s not in there, but we do know things about healthy boundaries, getting good sleep, taking good care of our bodies, and God’s character, nature, and his heart for his children. Those principles help us understand God’s heart for us and how we may parent, for example. You know, so we always have to go back to that. The other thing is that often I will recognize this is not something I want to do. God will be leading me to do something that feels contrary to my flesh. That is often the clue for me. I don’t know how that person will receive this message, or what the emotional cost will be for me. Am I going to be full of anxiety, or is this going to be, you know, fear-inducing or whatever it is? I think there are often moments when the Holy Spirit is prompting us to surrender and rely on the Lord to do what he’s calling us to do. So that’s also a good way to tell. And then also recognizing that the enemy of our souls is a liar. And so if there is something that is resonating with me or coming up in me and I realize it as being in opposition to God’s word, in opposition to what God’s calling me to do, I have to lay that thing down. With women, especially, there are almost two voices. There’s a voice of condemnation, and there’s a voice of conviction. If it’s a voice of the Holy Spirit, it’s going to convict us to get in line with his heart. But if it’s a condemning voice, that’s the voice of the enemy. I always encourage women to distinguish between the two. Is this a convicting voice or a condemning one?
Rachael Adams (17:18.581)
That’s so good. In your book, you highlight Old Testament women who heard from God and used their voices to impact his kingdom. Please share about one or two of the women who inspired you most, and explain why their stories matter to us today.
Rachael Groll (17:36.302)
You’re all inspiring, and Anna is part of the New Testament. I also have a list of women in the New Testament. So it expands all the scriptures. But for me, this book really started with Deborah. When I was in seminary, I did my master’s thesis on Deborah largely because I knew her name, but I really didn’t know her story. And if I had been taught anything about her or heard a sermon on her or teaching or anything, it was always through this lens of, she’s the exception.
Deborah is the exception because no men were willing to lead in Israel at the time. And that didn’t sit right with me in the sense of, you know, realizing that she was in this patriarchal society where there surely had to have been somebody at the time that would have led. And so it started me down this path of really understanding why Deborah was placed in a leadership role. And one of the things I love about Deborah’s story is that it didn’t start the moment the crisis came.
It started, and women can resonate with this, in the day-to-day. It began with her faithfulness, and her leadership started as she served her community well. And that was built over time. It was built through a relationship. It was built on being a good steward of the situations God had her involved in at the time, so that when the crisis came, people trusted her. The Lord trusted her.
People knew that she was faithful, and she had a relationship with the Lord. And I think oftentimes our leadership or our ability to lead through whatever God is calling us to lead in or serve in doesn’t start the moment the crisis hits. It begins in the day-to-day faithfulness and being a good steward of the things that God puts in front of us in our daily moments, in the way we raise our kids, in the way that we take care of our house, in the way that we care for our friends, all of those things are built into us because it’s really the training ground that God uses to develop us spiritually.
Rachael Adams (19:36.137)
Absolutely. We will take another brief break, and when we return, we’ll discuss what it means to obey God’s voice and speak boldly as women of faith.
Welcome back. You know, hearing God’s voice is one thing, but obeying it, as we’ve discussed, can feel very scary. What are the biggest obstacles to compliance, and how do we overcome them?
Rachael Groll (20:03.778)
I think a lack of obedience, especially among women who love the Lord, is not necessarily intentional. I’ve rarely met a woman who has said, “I’m just going to be blatantly disobedient to the Lord.” You know, it’s more often like the story you shared. There is fear there. There’s insecurity there. There is doubt, like, can I really do this? Is this really what the Lord is calling me to do? Or sometimes it’s inexperienced. Maybe God puts us in a situation where we really don’t know what we’re doing, and there’s an insecurity about not having our plan, you know, filled out step by step. And I think sometimes we have to take a step back and recognize that, number one, the Lord knows what he’s doing. And number two, he often works best through flawed people. You know, any of these women in this book that I talk about, they’re not the heroes of the story.
God is the hero of the story. He uses imperfect women in imperfect situations to showcase that he is a perfect God. And I think sometimes if we can just take a step back and recognize that it’s not really about us, we’re just the tool that God is using in the moment, but he is responsible for the outcome. And if we can do that and surrender the outcome to him, good, bad, or ugly, or something in between, then it takes the heat off of us or the pressure off of us to look at our performance versus what God wants to do. You know, there is such a nuance to this because none of this is perfect. You know, there’s always going to be a level of insecurity because of the dynamics of our relationship with the Lord. Very few times do I hear an audible voice from God saying, “Go to the left and do this thing.” It’s more often a feeling, a knowing, or a presence in which God reminds me of something or shows me something in the spirit.
And I have to take that step of faith of speaking out about the thing that he is calling me to speak out about. I remember a situation not long ago at a McDonald’s: someone whom almost everyone else in the restaurant was avoiding. And I won’t get into all the dynamics of it, but it was a bad part of town. And I had my daughter with me, and it was like, man, I don’t, I feel drawn to this person, which was contrary to how, like, my mama bear instincts typically would be. I remember thinking, “I believe the Lord wants me to speak to this person, but I don’t really know how to do that.” I don’t know that they would even be open to that. So I remember praying, Lord, if you want me to speak up or speak to this person, I need you to show me what to say. Please open a window and confirm it’s 100% for you; otherwise, it’s probably not safe to proceed. And a second later, this person shouts to me across McDonald’s, and he says, Hey, I’m sorry for cussing in front of your kids. And that little Holy Spirit’s like, okay, there’s your window. It was an opportunity to speak with this person, encourage him, and let him know that the Lord was aware of him. There’s a reason why the Lord put him on my heart that day. I was able to pray with him and encourage him in a way that was truly special and sweet. There was a testimony from my daughter, who was witnessing it.
And even probably a testimony to the other people in that McDonald’s, because this is somebody that perhaps didn’t have a lot of people just on a random afternoon speaking God’s love to him. But it helped me understand that sometimes there might be a glaring, open window of opportunity. And sometimes it’s a little bit more nuanced where we have to surrender that and say, okay, Lord, I don’t know, but I trust you and will you show me, and he’s faithful to do that. He’s consistently reliable in those situations, especially when he wants us to do something on his behalf.
Rachael Adams (23:53.558)
I love that story. I don’t necessarily know how that man responded to you, but I’d love to know. You know, sometimes when we’re obedient, we see the immediate fruit or the immediate result of that obedience, but oftentimes we don’t. And so that’s when it’s tough. And even through scripture, you see people who are obedient and then never see the fruit of their labor. How do we continue to persevere and remain faithful even in those times?
Rachael Groll (24:22.51)
One of my favorite stories is Ruth. Ruth was faithful and obedient, and she had no idea that Jesus would eventually come through her family line. You know, we sometimes won’t see the evidence of our obedience, this side of heaven. That’s the reality of it. But I think if we’re talking about living a life surrendered to the Lord, we have to do everything that we’re doing because of the kingdom impact, because the effect is for the kingdom, not for our ego, not for our own evidence that we’re called. It’s really about making an impact that lasts. And the reality is, there is a kingdom impact both when we use our voice and when we do not. And what scares me more is the kingdom’s impact on me, keeping me silent. You know, I might not see evidence this side of heaven of me using my voice, but I know that there will be evidence to me keeping my mouth shut. If I’m not praying for somebody and God calls me to pray for them, even from a salvation perspective, if the other believers around that person don’t share the hope of the gospel with them, and they end up not deciding to follow Christ based on nobody sharing with them, to me, that’s the scariest of all. And so it no longer is about me at that point. It really becomes a matter of Kingdom impact, for good or for bad.
Rachael Adams (25:50.914)
What would you say to the person listening right now who says, “I feel like God is silent”? You know, you’re talking about hearing God’s voice and me being obedient to that, but I don’t hear him at all. What would you say?
Rachael Groll (26:03.822)
I would say open your Bible. You know, I think there have been seasons in my life, and don’t get me wrong, there are different reasons for silence in our relationship with the Lord. Sometimes that’s sin. Sometimes it is our own distance. Sometimes it’s because it’s a season that the Lord wants us to lean in and read His word. You know, He communicates to us through the word. We all have Bibles in our homes, and so many times I would hear a woman say that to me, and my question for her would be, “Well, what are you reading in the Word?”
And sometimes we have to remember that it’s not about what verse jumps off the page while we’re reading that chapter, but it’s really more about our presence, his presence with us while we’re spending time with him, that can be so impactful, whether we see evidence of it or not. We have to go by what we know, not by what we feel. And what we know is that His Word is living and active. We may not see evidence of that in the 10 minutes we spend in God’s Word, but we must believe that God is building something in us. So then later, we learn to recognize His Word because it’s familiar to us, because we’ve spent time reading His Word. So it’s the same thing as when we’re in a relationship with other people, our children, our husband, or our best friend, we recognize their voice when they call on the phone because we spent time with them listening to them speak. They no longer have to share who’s calling because we recognize their voice, even in unexpected situations. If my husband calls during the day, I know he’s supposed to be at work. But when I pick up the phone, I know it’s his voice because I spent time with him. I think it’s the same way with our relationship with the Lord.
Rachael Adams (27:41.845)
Yeah, yeah, me too. Is there a biblical concept of love that applies to this topic?
Rachael Groll (27:46.466)
I think God’s heart for us, because He is love, is not just for us to know Him, but also to be known by Him. And I think we often put these barriers around us because of past hurts or even spiritual leadership that may have gotten something wrong in our lives, and we usually equate that with the Lord. But his pursuit of us is his love story. And that is evidenced throughout this entire storyline, this meta-narrative of scripture that is essentially his rescue plan to reconcile us to himself. And so what better way than to clearly understand who he is and his heart for us through his word and the things he’s saying to us through his word? And so that’s really my prayer for this book: that we recognize we don’t have to overcomplicate this, and that we would recognize God’s heart and his voice. And so when we ask him for help in that area, it’s almost an answer to his love notes for us as he starts speaking those over our lives. Now, I am in a season, a hectic season of writing, podcasting, and researching my next book, and all the things, and there comes a point in the day where I have to shut my brain off and not do anything that is making me productive. This is silly, but my kids and I have been watching this YouTube show. It is like the office meets the Old Testament. It’s called the promised land. I’m not sure if you’ve seen it. It is like, don’t think like the chosen, this is not that. This is not heretical, but it’s literally the office meets Moses, and it is cracking us up. We’ve been watching that, and it brings me great joy. I’ve been sending clips and shorts of it to my friends. So check it out, cause that’s super fun.
Rachael Adams (29:48.746)
I’ll check that and post it in the show notes as well. So that’s fun. I need a brain break sometimes, too, so I get that. Well, I want to stay connected with you. I’m sure listeners will want to, so tell us how we can best do that.
Rachael Groll (29:50.656)
Yeah, it’s fun.
Rachael Groll (30:01.838)
You can go to RachaelGrolll.com, and that’s where you can find all the things, the books and the podcasts, all of that. It’s also the Hearing Jesus podcast, and we also have the Hearing Jesus for Kids podcast. So anywhere you get your podcasts, you can find me.
Rachael Adams (30:18.497)
Well, Rachael, would you pray for us as we close?
Rachael Groll (30:29.56)
Absolutely. Father God, thank you so much for your word, which is your love letter to us. There are so many ways that you have communicated. I thank you for your heart for us, so that we would know you. So Lord, I pray even now for the listeners that they would start to feel this quickening in their own hearts as they recognize that even listening to the show is one of the ways you are trying to get a hold of their hearts. Lord, I thank you that you pursue us with a dynamic love that never gives up. Lord, I thank you for the way that you do that over and over. I thank you for Jesus. Thank you for your continued pursuit of us. And I pray, in this moment, that the listeners feel overwhelmed by the pursuit of your love. In Jesus’ name, amen.
Rachael Adams (30:45:00)
Thank you, Rachael. I appreciate you being here with me.
Rachael Adams (31:17.185)
Thank you so much for listening to the Love Offering Podcast. I hope today’s conversation encouraged and inspired you to love God, love others, and even love yourself a little more. If you enjoyed this episode, please share it with a friend and leave a review. It helps others find the show and spreads the message of love even further. To connect with me, visit me on my website at rachaelkadams.com. While you’re there, be sure to download the Love Offering Calendar, a free resource filled with simple daily ways to love those around you.
Don’t forget to pick up a copy of my book, Everyday Prayers for Love, Learning to Love God, Others, and Even Yourself, as well as Rachel’s book, Knowing God’s Voice, What Female Prophets of the Bible Teach Us About Recognizing, Trusting, and Obeying God. Both are available now wherever books are sold, and we pray they are meaningful resources for your faith journey. A special thank you to Life Audio for supporting this podcast and making it possible. To find more great podcasts, visit LifeAudio.com. Thanks again for joining us today. Until next time, let’s make our lives an offering of love.



