Have you been struggling to see God lately? Today’s episode weaves biblical and historical stories from Jesus-followers and turns our gaze again to the One who made us, loves us, and will never leave us. Join us as Jack Mooring chats about his book Portrait of God, in which he explores an attribute of God through a person in church history who radically experienced His nature. When our spiritual life feels like a roller coaster, true stories of faithful Christians help us rediscover our wonder about the unchanging character of our Creator.
Summary
In this episode, Jack Mooring, former member of the band Leeland and now a pastor, discusses his love for worship and his transition from being in a band to pastoring a church. He also talks about his new book, ‘Portrait of God,’ which explores the unchanging nature of God and encourages readers to know Him more deeply. Jack shares practical steps for walking out our faith and reminds us of the importance of remembering God’s attributes and the gospel. He also emphasizes the power of mercy and the impact one person can make for future generations.
Takeaways
Worship and music have always been a significant part of Jack Mooring’s life, and he continues to lead worship at his church.
Jack’s transition from being in a band to pastoring a church was a step of faith, and he is grateful for the opportunity to walk alongside and encourage people.
Jack’s book, ‘Portrait of God,’ aims to remind readers of God’s unchanging nature and encourage them to know Him more deeply.
Practical steps for walking out our faith include setting aside intentional time with God, meditating on His Word, and remembering His attributes and the gospel.
The concept of mercy is a powerful reminder that we don’t deserve God’s love and grace, but He freely gives it to us.
The stories of historical figures in the book highlight the impact one person can make for future generations by living out their faith and focusing on eternity.
Transcript
Rachael Adams (00:00.952)
Well, hello, Jack, and welcome to the Love Offering Podcast. I’m so happy to have you.
Jack Mooring (00:05.156)
Rachel, thank you for having me on. I’m so excited about this.
Rachael Adams (00:08.728)
Before becoming a full-time pastor, you were the founding member of the band Leland. So, talk to us about your love for the Lord and your love for worship.
Jack Mooring (00:17.804)
Yeah, well, that, I mean, it was obviously a huge, informative time of my life. know, me and Leland and our little sister Shelly, grew up in ministry. parents were always like music ministers growing up in churches. so music and worship was always just kind of like the air we breathed, you know? And so yeah, started the band with my brother and we toured the world for a long time. And I still look back on that season and just like mind blown by what God did the doors he opened, it was just this amazing experience. Getting to worship Jesus and lead people and worship and minister to people. So yeah, it was an incredible season and I still do a little bit of songwriting these days because I just kind of can’t help it. it’s, you I’m still a musician at heart. So, and I also help lead worship on Sundays too at our church. We’re a new kind of church plant. So I’m wearing a lot of hats these days. So I still get to do a bit of worship there as well.
Rachael Adams (01:19.63)
Well, I love to worship, and I think most everybody that goes to church on Sundays or listens to K -Love or any other radio stations will have heard many of your songs that we just know by heart and what a gift that is to all of us that you don’t even realize the people that you’re blessing with the work of your hands and the way that God has gifted you. It’s such a beautiful thing. And I’m so jealous in many ways because I love worship so much, but I have a terrible singing voice. Like I can’t clap to the right rhythm. My kids make fun of me all the time. Like I try my best. I’m making noise, not a joyful noise, but I’m making noise.
Jack Mooring (01:48.942)
Hahaha.
Jack Mooring (01:56.728)
Right, hey, it’s all good. It’s about the heart, and that’s what it’s all about.
Rachael Adams (02:03.746)
That’s right. Well, I was telling you before we hit record that Leland is actually coming to my home community to do a worship night for a benefit concert for a friend who had cancer and is so excited to get to worship with your band. Do you still call it your band or does it feel like?
Jack Mooring (02:21.1)
Yeah, it was the band I was in for sure. And what’s funny is, it’s, know, leaving them being my little brother and it’s just family. So it’s like, you know, I still feel like I’m a part of it. I’m definitely at this point in my life, this stage is like I’m like big brother cheerleader. Big brother cheerleader. So, and then every once in a while I’ll be like big brother consultant.
Rachael Adams (02:33.592)
Well.
Jack Mooring (02:47.322)
And give them my opinions, but I try to do that sparingly.
Rachael Adams (02:48.023)
Right.
Rachael Adams (02:52.756)
I’m wondering, this is just occurring to me, like, do you have a favorite book of the Bible? Are they mostly like the Psalms or something like that because your brain works in music oriented or David, you know, like, or is that?
Jack Mooring (03:03.638)
Yeah, Yes, I love the Psalms. I love the Psalms. Probably my favorite book of the Bible is probably Ephesians. i don’t know, it’s just amazing. But as a teenager, I just really gravitated to it. Even in Colossians, there’s that section about the preeminence of Christ. Some of the scholars think that that was actually an early church hymn. Jesus firstborn of all creation because it actually sounds lyrical and so there’s these moments in the epistles that are just such beautiful writing like period, know, like and so I’ve always loved Ephesians for that reason too and just the richness of Theology is just incredible.
Rachael Adams (03:53.164)
Yeah, yeah it is. You’re right, there are so many songs all throughout the Bible. I was reading like Mary, her song about Jesus, you know, from the very, I was reading about that this morning in Luke. But, so I’m interested to hear, when did you feel like God was calling you out of being in the band and then into pastoring a church?
Jack Mooring (03:59.897)
Yes.
Jack Mooring (04:10.148)
Yeah.
Yeah, so that was around 2014, actually January 2014. And we had two small children at the time. We now have five kids, but at that point we had two when they were really little. And just the traveling pace was just getting, just wasn’t the right fit for our family at that season. And so, but also at the same time, I mean, I knew that I was called the pastor from a very young age and we just prayed and prayed and prayed and really felt the Lord tell us to make that change. And so it was a step of faith, you know, and for us, because, you know, anybody listening to this is familiar with this. It’s like you do something that you know, and it’s familiar and it’s dependable. And, you know, changing and stepping out of that can be a little scary at first. And it was, but God has been so faithful. And I’m so glad we did because, you know, we are in the right place now. And, but yeah, you know, I love pastoring people. I love walking alongside people. And that’s my favorite part of pastoring is hearing people’s just speaking life into them and encouraging them. And I am just amazed. I’m so grateful that I get to do it. It’s amazing.
Rachael Adams (05:32.111)
Yeah, you know, I’m on a much smaller level in women’s ministry at my local church and it really is a gift to get to walk alongside a body of believers. I mean, just to experience that and be encouraged by that and supported by them and it’s beautiful. It really is living out acts, right?
Jack Mooring (05:44.665)
Yeah.
Jack Mooring (05:54.298)
Yeah, you know, and that’s one thing that our parents did quite a few things right. And one of the things they did right was they really trained us to say like, every person is valuable, you know, and, you know, it’s like a, and to give a theology for that, it’s every person has a Genesis 1 .26 and John 3 .16 value. Like they, every person you meet, they were created in the image of God, and then they were worth the blood of the Son of God. I mean, God saw them as valuable enough to send his only son to die for them. And so every person you meet is this incredibly valuable person to God. And so on the road, we tried our best to treat people that way. If there was a runner picking us up to take us somewhere. And now in the church, I try my best by God’s grace to treat people that way. And that’s the cool thing about, if there’s anybody listening to this, if you’re a part of a church, that’s the amazing thing about being a part of a church is that you’re around people you probably wouldn’t be around otherwise. I always say the church is kind of like an airport. It’s like you’re in this room with people that you don’t really have a choice to be around. You have this one thing in common. You got to get somewhere. And it’s just beautiful though because it creates this beautiful community to love one another.Yeah, I just, love the church. It’s, there’s nothing like it.
Rachael Adams (07:25.804)
Yeah, that’s such a good reminder. That really hit home with me. So thank you for sharing that. So you’re also a writer. And so let’s talk about your new book. It’s called Portrait of God. So how do you envision this portrait, which your cover is awesome, by the way. I really, really love that. So it’s a portrait. So what do you hope readers will see in it?
Jack Mooring (07:47.234)
Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, this book is really an extension of my pastoral work and life. You know, as I mentioned earlier, encouraging people, you know, I think we live in a time where people are discouraged. You know, they look at what’s going on in the world. They see the headlines and it’s like, it’s just stressful, you know, you know, to see what’s happening in the world. And, you know, we need to be encouraged. We need and also in times where in times of confusion, it’s important to go back to the fundamentals, the basics, and what is God like? Because we can have all of these sort of distorted images of Him. Even believers who’ve been serving the Lord for a while, they can kind of pick up bad ideas about God along the way, actually. And so we always need to return to that purity of like, what is He like? And so that’s why I wrote the book, as my contribution to that, to kind of encourage people to go back to, God’s nature, the purity of his nature, what are his characteristics? And yeah, it was so fun to write.
Rachael Adams (08:50.862)
Well, that actually segues perfectly into the next question that I was going to ask you. So your book aims to remind readers of God’s unchanging nature. So how do you address the doubts and uncertainties that so many believers face today? Because goodness, there is so much going on. And I guess there always has been biblically. I mean, we know that but it feels it feels heavy to us now, which I’m sure it did to them. You know, in the Bible times too. Yeah.
Jack Mooring (09:06.744)
Yes. Yes. Right.
Totally, totally. Well, and you know, that’s why I chose in the book to, in each chapter, each chapter is about an attribute of God. So God’s love, God’s holiness, God’s joy. But for each one, I chose someone from church history to tell their story, a person that experienced that attributes, know, really emphasized in their life. And so, but one common thing in all these stories I tell, they were living in really trying times, you know. C .S. Lewis lived, fought in World War I and lived through World War II. St. Augustine was living when the Roman Empire fell, like global civilization was collapsing all around him. So we can take heart because the church has been here before, you know. And so I would say to people who are feeling struggling and doubting, a lot of times our doubt comes from an expectation we had of God that we feel like is not being met. And I think if we can come back to lay those expectations down and say, Lord, no matter what’s going on in my life, I do know you are good. I do know you love me. And that’s why I say going back to the basics is so important. What is more fundamental than the cross of Jesus Christ? I mean, for me, like when I’m having a rough morning, I will just sit, I call it finding the gospel actually. And I won’t leave my chair until I find the gospel, until I just have this assurance. And I’ll remind myself of what Jesus did for me on the cross. You know, everything else could be going wrong in my life. But I know that one thing. I know He loved me enough to die for me. And it’s like, that helps me when I’m struggling with doubt. It helps me when I’m wrestling with these unfulfilled expectations and going back to what He’s already done for me. So I think that that’s a helpful thing is just sitting down and thinking about that.
Rachael Adams (11:10.424)
You mentioned some of the attributes that are included in the book and some of the people, is there an attribute that you struggle to believe in God? You know, like is there one that you struggle with most?
Jack Mooring (11:22.926)
Yeah, no, that’s a great question. i think, for me, probably the one I’ve probably struggled with personally the most is God’s joy, actually. I’m kind of an intense person, just naturally. I like to laugh, I like to have fun, but I tend to be very deep thinker, okay? And so I can kind of think my way a little too much down into a hole, you know? That was so fun writing that chapter because it reminded me that God is the God of the simple things, of joyful things, and we can’t forget that. so that was really fun to write. In that chapter, I talk about C .S. Lewis, of course, famously, he wrote a memoir called Surprised by Joy, his conversion story, and how God used joy actually to convert him, to bring him to Christ. And so that was really fun to write about and probably the most surprising and challenging to me.
Rachael Adams (12:28.046)
What about on the flip side of that, what is the easiest attribute for you to kind of jump on board with and believe in?
Jack Mooring (12:35.642)
Definitely God’s love. It’s so funny because it’s the easiest and the hardest a little bit because there’s, and I talk about this in the book, we know that God loves, know, people who have been believers for a while, you know on paper that God loves you and you believe it in your heart. But, you know, everything in the world, like we have three enemies, right? The flesh, the world and the devil and all three of those are working to sort of pull us away from the love of God. And so it’s my favorite topic because everything flows from that. Our love of God’s attributes flows from the perfection of His love. But the world is always challenging that. The world is always trying to get us to earn it, to always perform for it, to prove ourselves to God.
That’s just not God’s heart for us. He loves us first. He knows if we’ll encounter His love, we’ll go and do all the work. We’ll go and do all the good stuff. But it’s encountering His love first.
Rachael Adams (13:42.754)
You’ve mentioned some of the attributes that are included, you also, in the beginning, you mentioned some of the things that maybe we think God is, but He isn’t. Do you have any examples of that?
Jack Mooring (13:56.11)
Yeah, totally. think we can sort of… So I talk about in the first chapter, there’s these three attributes of God that are often talked about, His omniscience, His omnipotence, and His omnipresence. So, omniscience, He knows everything. Omnipotence, He can do anything. He’s all -powerful. And omnipresence, He’s everywhere, which is all true about God, and it’s actually amazing to think about. But sometimes we can twist those and kind of think of them in a negative sense. For example, God’s omniscience, we’re like, gosh, he knows everything I’ve done. I mean, that’s a little scary. Omnipotence, he’s so powerful, he’s so mighty, he could zap me if I did something wrong. And so once again, our culture, our cone -sinful hearts can sort of twist these things.
And so really it’s viewing them in the right light, you know, that yes, God knows everything and he still loves you. He knows everything about you, every secret, every failure. And he still sent Jesus to die on a cross for you. It’s amazing. so viewing those characteristics in light of his goodness and his omnipotence, the fact that he’s all powerful, man, that should encourage us, especially with what’s going on in the world. It’s like what do we have to be afraid of? What do we have to fear? This God is on our side. So it’s just viewing them in the right light.
Rachael Adams (15:28.758)
Yeah, well I’m also interested to hear, was there, know, all these historical figures that you paired with these attributes that kind of lived it out? Was there a person that you were just really drawn to, maybe aside from C .S. Lewis?
Jack Mooring (15:43.128)
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I think one interests a couple. Number one, so Fanny Crosby, her story is just amazing. That’s the chapter on the faithfulness of God. Fanny, when she was a baby, they tried to do an operation on her. They put hot colostices on her eyes and it caused her to go blind as a baby. She believed God could heal her and she certainly wanted that, but she never received that physical healing in this lifetime. So she was blind her entire life, but she went on to write thousands of hymns, like famous hymns, and changed the world. And so it was so cool to see someone. It’s not easy to be blind at any time, and certainly it was very challenging to be blind in her time. But she did it with joy and knowing that God was with her. And so that was really encouraging to hear that. And also, I didn’t realize that she had lost a child as an infant. And that was something I learned about her story that I didn’t realize. And so she went through a tremendous amount of suffering, but still rejoicing the faithfulness of God. And it’s a really encouraging story.
And also William and Catherine Booth, that was really fun too, because they were like, man, just this power couple, you know? She was actually a pioneer of preaching in her time. There weren’t very many women preachers in England in her time, and she really felt a calling to that. And so, tell part of that, of their story, but her and her husband just serving the poor is just like, it’s amazing. Those are really fun stories to dive into.
Rachael Adams (17:42.284)
So inspiring. I love history and what really just hits home in my heart as you’re talking is the difference one person can make for generations. And I’m almost getting emotional thinking about it because that could be us but it really isn’t to make our name famous. It’s to make his name famous and what a privilege and what a responsibility that we have to walk out our purpose and to live out the attributes of Christ. it’s him in us that’s enabling us to do any of this, but gosh, it makes such a big difference. Look at these people. Probably, everybody that you just mentioned probably doesn’t have any idea that we’re still talking about them today and that we’re still reading their works. It’s just, it really just, it inspires me, I think, is the word I’m looking for.
Jack Mooring (18:25.836)
So true.
Jack Mooring (18:32.696)
Right, right. That is so good. That’s such a good point because, you know, it’s kind of really, it’s a commonality in all these people’s stories that I tell in the book, that they lived for something greater than them, that they laid down their life. They weren’t perfect, they were humans. And that’s another part of the story too. They made mistakes, but they lived with eternity in mind and going like, you know, and I think that’s something our modern Christian culture has lost, this idea of thinking of future generations, you know?
Rachael Adams (18:50.686)
yeah.
Jack Mooring (19:02.778)
You know, plant a tree that we’re never going to live under the shade of right where we’re planting a tree for future generations And and and living that way. There’s actually a story. I don’t share it in the book, but There’s a story in a true story in the 1960s one of the colleges at Oxford the the dining hall that had big oak beams at the top of the hall and they were starting to rock and So they were trying to replace them and they had such a hard time trying to find an oak stock big enough to replace these massive beams in this beautiful hall. And so they were like, man, I guess we got to do fake laminate things. And so, they ended up finding out that the original groundskeeper 500 years ago when the college was being built, laid out a scheme and a plan for the groundskeeping with all the bushes and plants and everything. And he said, in a few years, you’ve gotta move these trees or deal with these bushes here. He had his whole timeline. He said, in a few hundred years, in about 500 years, the oak beams may begin to rot. He said, so I planted oaks in the back of the property. And so this concept of thinking for generations, of making decisions now that are going to affect future generations that we’re never going to see, it’s a thing that sets us apart as Christians. Because we’re not just living for this life, we’re living for eternity and we want to bless future generations.
Rachael Adams (20:34.56)
Amen. Gosh, that’s powerful. So how do we, you know, I think your book is, you know, the attributes and how people lived them out. So now we’re like, well, how do we do this? You know, like what are some practical steps that you would suggest for us as we walk out our faith on a day to day basis?
Jack Mooring (20:44.024)
Yeah. Yeah.
Jack Mooring (20:52.762)
Totally. You know, I say this all the time. My church probably gets sick of me saying it, but Christianity is less about learning and it’s more about remembering. I love to learn. I’m always learning new things and I think we all always should be learning new things. But my worst moments in my walk with God haven’t been when I haven’t been learning new things. It’s been when I’ve forgotten the things I already know. When I’ve gotten distracted and I think the number one thing that anyone listening to this can do is to define moments to set your heart and your eyes on the Lord. Whenever someone loses their appetite, it’s a sign that something is wrong. Like if we had a friend that we offered them food day after day and they were saying they weren’t hungry. We’d be like, hey, are you okay? Like, you know, we didn’t take you to the hospital, but a loss of appetite is a sign of sickness. And I think, you know, anytime we lose our appetite for God, for the things of God, we begin to lose our appetite for prayer. It’s a sign that we’re drifting, you know, and it’s not a thing we beat ourselves up about. It’s the world we live in, but we bring ourselves back to the Lord and say, God, make me hungry for you again. Give me the hunger that I used to have for your word, the hunger that I used to have for prayer and worship. And so just practically, if you can, on your schedule, carve out, like literally write it in your calendar, 10 minutes, 15 minutes, whatever it is, we have to fight for that time. And that’s the number one practical thing I can do is just encourage you to find those moments to get away with God and remind yourself of what he’s like. We’ve got to contend for that.
Rachael Adams (22:43.884)
Yeah, you know, just yesterday I was in the episode’s not released yet, but I interviewed Sally Clarkson and I was talking to her about, you know, what does her quiet time routine look like? And she actually said, and this reminds me of our conversation today. She said that if she’s reading the word, she will circle God’s attributes all throughout the Bible, just as a reminder of who he is. And I actually interviewed Shane and Popkin yesterday too, and we were talking about the promises of God and how just holding on to his promises, even if there’s a really, you know, long span in between what he promised and what is fulfilled. And I just, it’s making me think of our conversation of how we have to, we have to stay ingrained in his word and really meditate on his word and to feel his presence and to walk out the purpose that he has for us each day.
Jack Mooring (23:36.41)
Yeah, you know, there’s over 30 ,000 scriptures in the Bible. I view those as over 30 ,000 opportunities for prayer. You can take a verse and pray a verse. I do this all the time. It’s a practical thing I do. But I’ll take a section of scripture or a verse and I’ll begin to pray it. I talk about this at the end of the book. The last two chapters are very practical and get the nitty gritty of like spending time with God, knowing God. You know, I just always ask myself when I’m reading a section, are there any promises to believe? Are there any commands to obey? And I say, Lord, help me to believe this promise today. Help me to, and Lord, help me to obey this command. I mean, if you just did those two things, that’s huge. And then the most important and third thing I do when I’m the scripture is I try to find the gospel in it. No matter what section of scripture I’m reading, I try to find, Is there any hint of Jesus? Is there any hint of what Jesus has done for us? And what I mean by the gospel is it’s what God has done for us that we couldn’t do for ourselves, right? The free gift of the gospel. So anytime I’m reading the scripture, I find any hint of that and I celebrate it. I thank God for it, you know? And, you know, say a scripture like, mercies are new every morning. Lord Jesus, I thank you for that. It’s because of the work of the cross that your mercies are new every morning. That Jesus is alive today. That he’s not a dead God. That he’s alive and his mercies are living right now. So I try to bring it back to the cross. So promises to believe, commands to obey, and then finding the gospel.
Rachael Adams (25:22.222)
That’s such a good reminder for me in my own quiet time is, you know, sometimes I did a like read the Bible in 90 days with Mary to youth and gosh, it was so valuable just to see that the Bible in its entirety, you know, it’s been just such a quick span. But then after I did that, you know, it’s, it’s, you know, April and I’m like, okay, now what, you know, how do I keep my quiet time fresh and what do I do now? And so I love hearing how different spiritual leaders and pastors and writers spend time with the Lord in their own quiet time. So that really helps me personally. And I know you’ve shared some of your favorites and the attributes, but it’s after you researched all of this and you wrote it, was there one main takeaway, like one main lesson that really just hit home for you and that you hope that hits home for readers?
Jack Mooring (26:15.308)
Yeah, absolutely. I think that the one thing that I hope people take away from this book is that they can know God too. That’s the hope I pray that they would take from the stories that I tell in this book. They were normal people, they really were. And they didn’t see themselves as heroes. They were normal people just like you and me, but they leaned into God and amazing things begin to happen when you lean into the Lord. You don’t have to do it perfectly. None of us do it perfectly. That’s why we need grace. But yeah, that’s the biggest takeaway is that you can do it too. You can know God. God is knowable. He proved it on the cross. He came in Jesus Christ to make himself known. And we don’t have to have this long distance between us and God.
Rachael Adams (27:06.808)
I’m thankful for that truth. Well, this is the question I’ve been asking all of my guests this season and you’ve actually talked a lot about love already which always makes my heart happy but so is there a biblical concept of love that you feel like applies to this theme today?
Jack Mooring (27:14.382)
Hahaha.
Jack Mooring (27:24.378)
Absolutely. I think recently the Lord was speaking to me and just kind of dealing on this with me. The idea of mercy. There was a moment in my life where I was like, I really needed mercy. I needed forgiveness. I was having a hard time receiving forgiveness and I felt the Lord just kind of impress on my heart. said,
It’s not mercy if you deserve it. And the whole point of mercy is that you don’t deserve it. The whole point of grace is that we don’t deserve grace. And I think that is a huge concept for us to grasp, is that we can’t earn the gospel. It is simply a gift to be received. We live in a culture right now, because of the internet, because of YouTube and podcasts, and all these great resources that we have, we can kind of like take it upon ourselves to just make our lives better, you know? And there’s this pressure to just live this perfect kind of life, optimized life. that’s not the gospel. The gospel is we need God. And He gave us this free gift of Himself through Jesus Christ.So yeah, it’s not mercy if you deserve it. And I think the perfect example of that is the prodigal son. mean, like, he did not deserve any of what the father gave him, but the father still did it anyways. And he even resisted it at first, kind of going like, this is too much, you know? And if it feels like too much, then you’re on the right ground because that’s what grace is.
Rachael Adams (29:11.786)
Amen. Well, is there something you’re loving right now? There’s no rules to this. Just the first thing that pops into your head.
Jack Mooring (29:19.892)
Well, you know, we have five kids and so, you know, we’re kind of getting started back into the school year and everything, which has been fun. So a couple of things. Our middle child, he’s taken up golf and so he’s just super, super interested in it. And so it’s been so fun just taking him out to this little course and playing golf with him. But in five and five kids, it’s like you have to find the time, you know, to have some intentional time with all of them. And that’s just been so fun. and then to like, it’s actually really funny when I first got the author copies of my book, because, you know, with the publisher, they send you some free copies of the book. And about a month ago, we got some boxes in the house. And when my five year old held my book, he literally would not take it out of his hand like all day. He thought it was the coolest thing ever. He was looking at me like, you wrote this? And which is so sweet. So that was a really cool moment. They just thought it was such a cool thing.
Rachael Adams (30:26.71)
Yeah, I love that. I’ll tell you golfing like right now because I’m in Kentucky and you’re in Nashville and the weather has been perfect lately in the south. it’s been so beautiful. Anything outside is enjoyable.
Jack Mooring (30:37.53)
Amazing.
Jack Mooring (30:42.35)
Yeah, it’s incredible. I’m excited because it actually, you know, it gives me an extra excuse to go play golf now, which is fun, but I’m loving that he’s loving it.
Rachael Adams (30:55.17)
Yeah, doing anything with our kids and watching them, you know, do what they love. It brings me so much joy too. And actually, as I was dropping my kids off at school today, they’re, you know, like the little elementary school sons. The son said today, a book is a dream that you’re holding in your hands. And I thought, isn’t that just such as an author is a writer, it really is a dream come true to have a book, but also it’s you know, it’s our imaginations and our thought life. And so I loved that that slogan today I saw on that sign reminds me of your child holding up and being so proud of their dad.
Jack Mooring (31:27.68)
It’s been so sweet. And he asked me even to read a couple of the stories to him and it was just, it was precious. So I’m grateful for it.
Rachael Adams (31:38.21)
Yeah, well today has encouraged me so much and just to focus on the attributes of God and in my own part of the story and how to live up my faith and maybe in a more unintentional way. So thank you for that reminder. Would you pray for us as we close?
Jack Mooring (31:54.04)
Yes, I would love to. God, I thank you, Lord, for this time. Thank you for this amazing podcast. Thank you for the work that Rachel is doing so faithfully, pointing people to you. And God, we pray for every person listening right now. I thank you, Lord, that it is no accident that they listen today. And I pray if they’re listening in their car or their kitchen or wherever they are, Lord, that you would fill that space with your love. I pray that right now, Holy Spirit, that you would give them an assurance that they can have a deep relationship with you, They can know you too. And it doesn’t have to be for these elite kind of spiritual warrior people, but it’s for everyday people like us, Lord, that you made yourself knowable. And I pray that they would feel the assurance that you are with them, God, that you are for them, that no matter what is going on in their life today, that you are right there by their side that can trust in you, they have everything they need in you God, through the person of Jesus Christ. And so we just want to thank you for that today. Bless every person listening. In Jesus’ name, amen.
Rachael Adams (33:04.436)
Amen. Well, thank you so much for being my guest. I know I want to stay connected with you. I’m sure listeners are going to want to get a copy of your book. So tell us how we can best do that.
Jack Mooring (33:14.68)
Yeah, absolutely. the book’s available on all the normal sites, Amazon, all that. So yeah, please support it. And like I said, it’s been, my wife has been reading it to our kids as a little devotional thing, which has been cool. So I think it could be good for that. if you can support it. But you can find me on Instagram. That’s kind of where I mainly live online, it’s at JackMoring and on Twitter as well. And so I post and share thoughts quite a bit. So you can follow me there.
Rachael Adams (33:47.374)
Yeah, well, I’ll include all that in the show notes. And you know, you’re right. I’m thinking your book appeals to men, women, and no matter what age you are. believers and non -believers, honestly. So I think it’s a great book and I’m excited to share it with everybody listening. So thank you so much for being my guest.
Jack Mooring (33:57.007)
Yes.
Jack Mooring (34:05.048)
Thanks, Rachel. Thank you for having me on.
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